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| intimidator32 | | Chaac |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2012 | | Posts | : | 913 | | Location | : | lexington, ky, United States |
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| | Posted : 27 Aug 2016 - 21:47 Post title : 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight | | | So just did a demo ride on a new road glide 107 and thought i'd give you guys my thoughts on it. First off the idle of the new motor is much smoother than the 103 and theres noticably less heat coming off the motor. We pullout and the clutch pull is different and the tranny shifts are a lot slicker than my 2015 street glide but not as slick as a bird. We get out of the lights and much to my surprise our leader just takes off like a bat out of hell and so does everyone else and this is where my experience was a lot different than last year with my current bike. Last year i was impressed with the comfort and gadgets and was just so so with performance . Let me tell you guys this new motor got me excited it pulls hard and keeps on pulling now mind you my senses may have been dulled by a year of riding my bike but it seemed very quick to me. The suspension is just terrific smooth, stable, and soaks up bumps like a dream. The only thing negative i'd say is that it has that tick tick tick value train noise now that the 103 does not have. Harley has up their game with this motor but we'll see if it has any problems with it or not. I've said that my current bike would be my one and only harley but this motor may be a game changer for me. Got to win that lotto to have all my dream bikes.
Heres my list:
2017 roadglide ultra limited
2015 triumph thunderbird nightstorm
2016 KTM superduke 1290
2016 BMW r1200rs
2016 ducati scrambler
2016 honda africa twin
and the list goes on and on and on........................................
ride safe all
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| surfing72 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 20/03/2012 | | Posts | : | 483 | | Location | : | Nth, New South Wales, Australia |
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2016 - 07:05 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: intimidator32) | | | Interesting review of the 107 mate. I traded the Tbird for in January this year for new a 103 FXDWG. I had no knowledge of the 107 coming out and probably would have held off if I did know. I'll be keen to ride the 107 and see what the difference is from the 103. I reckon the 103 goes pretty good one up but doesn't compare to the Bird when 2 up. The cost of a stage 5 kit is ridiculous so I'll stick with what I have performance wise. Like you I also have a wish list
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2016 - 22:12 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: surfing72) | | | UH, OH!!!!
The seed is planted.
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2016 - 02:08 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: Leethal) | | | I was chatting with a guy this evening regarding the HD,and he said that they have a new WATER COOLED V twin motor that they've been working on [similar to what the Bird has] and will be released,shortly.It's supposed to put out more HP,and run quieter.Anybody else hear that???
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| Tal | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 30/01/2015 | | Posts | : | 1,074 | | Location | : | Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2016 - 08:03 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: davetac1) | | | Quote...."There are three flavors of the Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight motor. The standard Milwaukee-Eight 107 features oil-cooled cylinder heads and a displacement of 107 cubic inches (1750cc). The Twin-Cooled Milwaukee-Eight 107 is the same displacement, but has liquid cooling for the heads. At the top of the line is the Twin-Cooled Milwaukee-Eight 114, which has liquid-cooled cylinder heads and displaces 114 cubes (1870cc). For the first year, the Milwaukee-Eight powerplants will be used exclusively in Touring and three-wheel models".
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| Irish | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 28/10/2013 | | Posts | : | 854 | | Location | : | New England, NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2016 - 13:08 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: Tal) | | | The 103 motor is a sweet engine, so I am sure the Milwaukee eight will be nice too
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| DangerMouse | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 28/03/2016 | | Posts | : | 546 | | Location | : | South East, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2016 - 15:53 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: Irish) | | | Stop press: Harley make a slightly less s##t engine - it'll still be s##t though!  
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| PES | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 03/01/2009 | | Posts | : | 927 | | Location | : | Tulsa, OK, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2016 - 16:56 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: davetac1) | | | davetac1 wrote:
I was chatting with a guy this evening regarding the HD,and he said that they have a new WATER COOLED V twin motor that they've been working on [similar to what the Bird has] and will be released,shortly.It's supposed to put out more HP,and run quieter.Anybody else hear that??? |
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Uh Dave... Harley has had an water cooled version of their v-twin for a couple of years now. Pick up a motorcycle magazine once in a while for god's sake.
Seriously, the guy is probably talking about this new engine the 107. They did add water cooling to the existing engines on some touring models a couple of years ago but this new 107 is supposedly a brand new engine from the ground up.
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Aug 2016 - 00:43 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: PES) | | | I believe he said it was a 107 motor,and both cylinders are now water cooled just like our Birds and other makes instead of the rear cylinder only.I'll have to do a little research on it.
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| | Posted : 30 Aug 2016 - 10:38 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: intimidator32) | | |
Hmmm I was also reading the 120 HD crate motor only has 2 ft-lb more than the storm engine 
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| sykal | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 20/10/2014 | | Posts | : | 52 | | Location | : | W.A, Australia |
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| | Posted : 30 Aug 2016 - 11:16 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: ufothunderbird) | | |
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Hmmm I was also reading the 120 HD crate motor only has 2 ft-lb more than the storm engine |
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Its still got the bloody camshaft in the bottom end of the 107 eight engine .WOW .....it really is advanced ....typical HD .It took PORSCHE to make the vrod stay together .
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| edmontonstorm | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 1,054 | | Location | : | Alberta, Canada |
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| | Posted : 30 Aug 2016 - 14:28 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: sykal) | | | I heard the top end water cooled ones have about 50 bloody different unions or something and allot of them are crappin the bed all over the place? (just parkin lot talk)
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| theroadrat | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/08/2013 | | Posts | : | 14 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 31 Aug 2016 - 03:41 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: intimidator32) | | |
intimidator32 wrote:
So just did a demo ride on a new road glide 107 and thought i'd give you guys my thoughts on it. First off the idle of the new motor is much smoother than the 103 and theres noticably less heat coming off the motor. We pullout and the clutch pull is different and the tranny shifts are a lot slicker than my 2015 street glide but not as slick as a bird. We get out of the lights and much to my surprise our leader just takes off like a bat out of hell and so does everyone else and this is where my experience was a lot different than last year with my current bike. Last year i was impressed with the comfort and gadgets and was just so so with performance . Let me tell you guys this new motor got me excited it pulls hard and keeps on pulling now mind you my senses may have been dulled by a year of riding my bike but it seemed very quick to me. The suspension is just terrific smooth, stable, and soaks up bumps like a dream. The only thing negative i'd say is that it has that tick tick tick value train noise now that the 103 does not have. Harley has up their game with this motor but we'll see if it has any problems with it or not. I've said that my current bike would be my one and only harley but this motor may be a game changer for me. Got to win that lotto to have all my dream bikes.
Heres my list:
2017 roadglide ultra limited
2015 triumph thunderbird nightstorm
2016 KTM superduke 1290
2016 BMW r1200rs
2016 ducati scrambler
2016 honda africa twin
and the list goes on and on and on........................................
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I finally had to give up on the Tbird. Fuel injection started giving me grief and with the last Triumph dealer closing, the local Harley dealer was the only place that would give me anything for it. I traded it for a used Harley. While the 103 has its own quirks, gone are the fuel injection issues I was having. I may look into a new 107 but I might wait awhile. The original intro of the Twin Cam was a bit rocky.
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| intimidator32 | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2012 | | Posts | : | 913 | | Location | : | lexington, ky, United States |
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| | Posted : 31 Aug 2016 - 10:44 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: davetac1) | | |
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I believe he said it was a 107 motor,and both cylinders are now water cooled just like our Birds and other makes instead of the rear cylinder only.I'll have to do a little research on it. |
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Dave, its only water cooled heads and it only on the ones with factory lower fairings as thats where they hide the radiators. One guy told me that they originally took all the shake out of the 107 motor but test groups didnt like it so they put some back in. I'm not sure how they keep the 103 water cooled ones from leaking as they shake like a nervous cat As a side note i know that a 1600 bird will pull a 103 but i think it would be close the first 100 meters with this 107 but the 107 has more pull after that i would wager. 1700 I don't know because i never rode one.
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| theroadrat | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/08/2013 | | Posts | : | 14 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 31 Aug 2016 - 12:20 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: intimidator32) | | | intimidator32 wrote:
davetac1 wrote:
I believe he said it was a 107 motor,and both cylinders are now water cooled just like our Birds and other makes instead of the rear cylinder only.I'll have to do a little research on it. |
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Dave, its only water cooled heads and it only on the ones with factory lower fairings as thats where they hide the radiators. One guy told me that they originally took all the shake out of the 107 motor but test groups didnt like it so they put some back in. I'm not sure how they keep the 103 water cooled ones from leaking as they shake like a nervous cat As a side note i know that a 1600 bird will pull a 103 but i think it would be close the first 100 meters with this 107 but the 107 has more pull after that i would wager. 1700 I don't know because i never rode one. |
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A couple MC articles point out that riders today view valve noise and vibration with low quality. Which was why the designers for the 107 wanted to reduce both. I also suspect valve noise is what turned some people off on the Tbird. Every time I road with a non-Triumph group someone would always comment or asked if there's something wrong with my motor. It was the noisy head valves.
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 02:56 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: theroadrat) | | | I too have listened to the newer Tbird motors,which has, infact, turned me away from buying another Bird.My 2010,1600,even though it USED to be QUITE noisy,was,IMO, substantially quieter then these newer model Birds.So I have to agree with these people who were also turned off by the excessive valve train noise.Years ago[late 70's] Yamaha introduced their new 750 ,4 cylinder,Sega,which to this day,I don't think I've ever heard a motor as noisy as that one was.Needless to say,it was short lived.
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| PES | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/01/2009 | | Posts | : | 927 | | Location | : | Tulsa, OK, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 04:13 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: davetac1) | | | My '14 Commander sounds the same as my previous 2010, 1600. The Commander seems a little smoother and quieter. The only time I notice valve noise, is when it is at idle and my face shield is up. Or God forbid, I take it a couple of blocks to the car wash w/o a helmet to wash off bugs from a trip. Hell, my 02 TBA had noticeable valve noise also. To me it's not a big deal. There is a lot going on in the Thunderbird engine. Two counterbalance shafts, 4 valves per cylinder there is going to be a little noise. I've never experienced any so called "piston slapping" type noise in either bike.
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| LegionRider | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/05/2010 | | Posts | : | 63 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 07:03 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: PES) | | | TBH, my '15 Commander actually sounds better than my previous 2010 which had the BB conversion.
Recently rode the Commander back from Europe at "respectable" speeds for over 12 hours and it sounded sweet the whole time.
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| AZCactus | | Taranis | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,524 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 17:32 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: LegionRider) | | | LegionRider wrote:
TBH, my '15 Commander actually sounds better than my previous 2010 which had the BB conversion.
Recently rode the Commander back from Europe at "respectable" speeds for over 12 hours and it sounded sweet the whole time. |
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I feel sorry for you guys with engine rattles, my 2010 BB has No issues (must be the oil, lol). She's quiet as a (dead) mouse but barks when asked. 
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| edmontonstorm | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 1,054 | | Location | : | Alberta, Canada |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 20:09 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: davetac1) | | |
davetac1 wrote:
I too have listened to the newer Tbird motors,which has, infact, turned me away from buying another Bird.My 2010,1600,even though it USED to be QUITE noisy,was,IMO, substantially quieter then these newer model Birds.So I have to agree with these people who were also turned off by the excessive valve train noise.Years ago[late 70's] Yamaha introduced their new 750 ,4 cylinder,Sega,which to this day,I don't think I've ever heard a motor as noisy as that one was.Needless to say,it was short lived. |
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Was actually called a Seca Dave, i owned one of those suckers, i loved that bike and aside from a crapy shift mechanism i never had an issue with it.
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 21:28 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: edmontonstorm) | | | I never said there was an issue with it,I said the motor in it was LOUD.At that time, I was workin at a Marina that sold both Yamaha Motorcycles as well as boats,motors and repairs for both,and while I was workin on an IO, my student was assembling one of those Seca's out of the crate and I remember asking him if he put any oil in it because the motor was so loud!! I thought he might have forgotten to put oil in it.But that's just the way they were!! But ,if memory serves me correctly,the Seca model was short lived.
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Sep 2016 - 04:23 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: davetac1) | | | I did alittle reading on HD's new Milwaukee Eight,and from what I read,it kinda looks like it got it's name because it's now using 8 valves,two intakes and two exhausts per cylinder.WOW!! HD is claiming this is the latest technology out.I mean it's only been used in the Jap machines for the last umpteen years and in our TBirds since 2009.So I guess the engineers at Harley are alittle slow. And if you listen to their website about this new miracle machine,you'll note they keep using the term lower emissions and cleaner air.Gee!! I wonder why??? Ya don't suppose it's got anything to do with the $12 million dollar fine they just paid for dirty emissions,do ya???
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| theroadrat | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/08/2013 | | Posts | : | 14 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Sep 2016 - 05:29 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight | | | I test road 2 Milwaukee eight 107 bikes today. One they let me spend almost an hour with. The power, refinement, gearbox and smoothness are stunning. Any advantage the big parallel twin or straight three (Rocket) had just evaporated, just like their north American dealer network...evaporated. While I won't be rushing out to buy one, this engine propels HD back into the lead position for cruiser bikes.
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| | Posted : 05 Sep 2016 - 05:58 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: theroadrat) | | | Lobotomy Monday, HD Tuesday.
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| Tal | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 30/01/2015 | | Posts | : | 1,074 | | Location | : | Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 05 Sep 2016 - 07:44 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: Irish) | | |
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The 103 motor is a sweet engine, so I am sure the Milwaukee eight will be nice too |
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I'm thinking it will be a sweet motor too Irish....especially the 114 which will only be fitted into the cvo bikes initially. The first tests eliminated the vibrations completely but test riders didn't like that so they now have the "Harley" vibration but it has been reduced by 75%.
It is considerably quieter apparently .....we will watch how it proves itself over time I'm sure. I for one am always interested in new progress with bikes...all bikes, to me its an interest even tho I'm a "Trumpy" man. The Triumph has always appealed to me because of the engineering so new ideas, new motors hold my attention....
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| | Posted : 05 Sep 2016 - 11:18 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: Tal) | | | same here Tal, Im a Trumpetlad but love them all, and wish Harley well with the new release.
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| PES | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/01/2009 | | Posts | : | 927 | | Location | : | Tulsa, OK, United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Sep 2016 - 14:55 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: Irish) | | | Irish wrote:
same here Tal, Im a Trumpetlad but love them all, and wish Harley well with the new release. |
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I'm with you Irish. Love em all and I'm glad Harley now has a modern smooth engine, but I won't be buying one because I don't want to be part of the herd. I like the exclusivity of being a Triumph owner.
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| AZCactus | | Taranis | | | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,524 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 05 Sep 2016 - 14:56 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: Irish) | | | I wonder if that somewhat hurts resale (of older bikes).
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| | Posted : 05 Sep 2016 - 15:06 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: theroadrat) | | |
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...Any advantage the big parallel twin or straight three (Rocket) had just evaporated, just like their north American dealer network...evaporated.... |
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That reminds me when my Bonnie broke down in Sturgis. And I thought, no big deal...I'm in the middle of motorcycle capitol. Wrong. Nobody would touch the bike within a 1000 miles.
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| | Posted : 05 Sep 2016 - 15:14 Post title : Re: 2017 Harley 107 Milwaukee Eight (Re: PES) | | |
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I'm with you Irish. Love em all and I'm glad Haley now has a modern smooth engine, but I won't be buying one because I don't want to be part of the herd. |
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The ole phrase "I ride a Triumph, not a bandwagon" still holds true.
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